Hi all.. I just wanted to post that my own personal experience (experiment) with keeping my water level higher during the final week - right up until Friday night before the show - proved to be successful for me. I know there was quite a bit posted on this subject by many Bev devotees, and I tried it for my show on Saturday. I am 115 lbs. and kept my water at 2 gals - Sunday through Thursday - I dropped slightly (due to travel, etc.) on Friday to approx. 165 oz. total - drank right up till bed time - with final intake of 6 oz. dry red wine. MAN did I get vascular from that! Also, I moved my carb meal to Thursday night - and did the standard carb load meal only. I decided against any carbs on Friday other than a bite or two or the carb up bread. Saturday (almost afraid to look...) but I awoke drier than I've ever been and vascular. I started Sat.morning with small amounts of water 6-8 oz. and drank right up to pre-judge - adding in green tea with honey, 6 oz. red wine back stage.. I felt good - lots of energy and didn't cramp once! This is a first for me.. So - that's my latest experience on the water issue. I plan to do the exact same scheme going into next weeks show.
I won the Women's Masters class at the NGA Natural Olympus Pro/Am. I eliminated sodium starting Thursday - ate gr. beef and/or dry tasteless chicken w/half grapefruit all day. Did the potassium load as Bev advises and kept drinking the water.. right up through Friday night. It was the best I've felt at a show.. as far as energy, stamina, no cramping, etc. I will do it again this weekend. I learn something new with every show.. glad I experimented with this method. Thanks to all who posted and asked ? about the method .. I learned a lot!
NO.. I did not mess with the natural diuretics this time. I really goofed last Fall going into a show doing diuretic tea, taraxatone, dandeloin, cut my water.. I ended up FLAT, smooth and couldn't get a pump to save my life. I did take extra Vit. C, Complex B and B6 .. especially Friday into Sat. a.m. I kept using the restroom right up until stage time.. I voided everything I took in.. and held little to NO water. I know this method works for me.. and I'll use it again on Saturday! One ?? I do have for anyone.. does switching to DISTILLED on Friday have any advantage?? Or should I juse consume Spring from Thursday through Saturday? Any thoughts here..
I did pretty much the same you did water wise for my last shows, had water all the way up to Friday night, did cut back some on Friday (to about 1 gallon), Saturday I did cut back some, but still not to the point where I would have felt thirsty. I usually just use spring water from Thursday on, never did destilled, and I was definitely dry for all my shows.
CONGRATULATIONS!!! Gret job! In the past I have always used spring water, but I did used distilled on Friday this time. I really do not think it made much of a differance for me. The big thing was keeping the water in. I just got my photo's back from the MM and I look really, really dry. No more cut backs for me, just the sodium/potassium manipulation and carb load. This weekend I may try the Saturday carb up to see how that works. My numbers are low now so I don't think it will be a problem. I'll let everyone know how that goes as well.
YES.. let us know. I'll see you on Saturday at the show! Did you not think the Thursday carb up meal was enough?? did you also do 2 meals as you stated earlier.. 2 meals of oats/sweet pos. Just on Thursday? I'm asking because I only did the normal/standard carb up meal on Thursday and I toyed with the thought of adding in more carbs on friday - but decided against it. I too, felt that I could've added more carbs. Interesting.. but I will NOT cut water.. again.. I'm keeping it in.. from now on. I felt better and I looked better with it. Good luck!!!
I actually did three carb meals on Thursday and did not spill over at all. I was fuller on Friday night so I am toying with the idea of doing the Thursday carb up and the Saturday am carb up. I'll keep my Thursday the same, and cut back on the Friday. A bag of rice will be too much for me, perhaps 1 cup with a ripe banana.
I think this is a great post I am curious about numbers for brocas and sulcop. Height weight and skinfolds. I assist my wife in her prep. We thought we were doing well but when she went to the show the other ladies were extremely thin. I mean in a bad way. I would like to be able to give her some comparisons before her next show she is 5' 8" 165lbs skinfolds 69 or 70
Hi all. Just wondering why you guys haven't mentioned anything about a double carb up meal on wendsday as the 6th meal and a single carb meal on thursday as the 6th meal then just beef and grapefruit on friday. That is what was suggested to me by Bev. advisors and always worked well for me.
Hi Jon and Bob.. First - Jon, this show I didn't have my bodyfat done once. I went with my prep following Beverly Fat Burn diet strictly from about 8-10 weeks out from the show. Cardio was very important for my prep.. I did it daily - and sometimes double sessions for 2-3 days a week. I didn't play into the numbers game this time.. I let the mirror be my guide. I lost about 10-12 lbs. in a 12 weeks period..keeping 5 lbs. of muscle!!! A first for me.. I can tell you though, being female, if she can get lean - especially in the lower body where females tend to hold/keep their fat stores.. she'll do well. Roger always told me if my skinfold in my quad gets down to 10mm or lower.. I'm in the game and sure to have cuts! The water issue.. it's a first for me not to CUT it gradually from Weds. on.. but I'll not do it again. I have a show Saturday - and I'm drinking 2 gallons/day right up till Friday. I'm 5'4" and compete at 115 this last show. If that is any gauge/guide for you.
Bob: I did the double carb up meal last Spring for my shows.. for me (I was about 110 lbs. at the time) it was TOO MUCH. I felt miserable, I bloated horribly, I looked smooth and it didn't work. This time, I did the 'normal' carb meal only on Thursday night.. nothing else. I came in much drier with fewer carbs and more water. I kept all carbs out again, except small bites of sweet pos, day of show. IT worked for me.
Like Brochas I learned through trial and error that the Thursday carb is best for me. I fill out better and have no spill over. I am adding more carbs to my Saturday meals now as well. In the past it was all beef/g.f. till after the show. Last week for the MM I had 1/2 sweet potato and 1/2 a bar this week I am going to try 1 cup white rice with apple sauce and a over ripe banana about 3 hours out and 1/2 a carbo force with 10 grams glutamine select a tsp salt (thanks for that one VA, it worked great!)
Sulcop, What's the deal with the tbsp of salt? Will that actually tighten you up? I allways use a snickers bar about 30 min prior to prejudging, but I guess that has quite a bit of sodium doesn't it? Thanks man...
I got the tip from VA and it was dead on! All I did to pupm up was a set of 25 push ups and some curls with the bands and I has vascularity all over, like a hudge pump without losing the striations. The problem with over pumping a muscle is loss of detail, but you get vascular. This time I had both. Well time to get ready, leave for Pitt at 6am and need another coat of dye. By the way, Maddog, I am alot harder in the lower body and overall detail then last week. So far so good, and I expect no problems this weekend. I am concerned about # three. I am getting light headed and not able to sleep. I'll dig my heals in and go for it, its only another week Thanks for all the tips.
Good luck again Sully! Keep us posted. I'm looking forward to really understanding exactly what you did all three times as far as carb depletion, carbing up, water, sodium and other "extra's" plus how this time has been different than your previous protocols but I won't bug you for the nitty gritty details untill the dust settles. Do your best to chill out and get some rest - that will help for Saturday and for number 3. Too much cortisol can kick in if you get real stressed out, and that would not help your conditioning. Take care.
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One ?? I do have for anyone.. does switching to DISTILLED on Friday have any advantage?? Or should I juse consume Spring from Thursday through Saturday? Any thoughts here..
I can tell you though, being female, if she can get lean - especially in the lower body where females tend to hold/keep their fat stores.. she'll do well. Roger always told me if my skinfold in my quad gets down to 10mm or lower.. I'm in the game and sure to have cuts! The water issue.. it's a first for me not to CUT it gradually from Weds. on.. but I'll not do it again. I have a show Saturday - and I'm drinking 2 gallons/day right up till Friday. I'm 5'4" and compete at 115 this last show. If that is any gauge/guide for you.
