For those of you that use Bev's Glutamine Select during workouts/cardio, has it ever slowed your fat loss progress. I opted out on drinking it during my resistance training because I eat before I train and take 6 Mass and 6 Liver Tabs, but I began drinking it during my AM and PM cardio sessions. Basically, I am curious if the falvoring and or Gums will result in a insulin spike preventing lipolysis??

There's going to be a slew of factors involved slowing down fat loss. It's doubtful the GS will be any sort of villain preventing your goals in this respect. It can only help.

~How much cardio are you doing? I notice you're doing 2-a-days.
~What is your diet and calories like? Carb sources?
~What are you eating prior to training, and what time of day are you lifting?
~What other supps are you presently taking?
~Are you prepping for a show, and how long has this fat loss plateau been hindering you?
~What days are you lifting?
~What's your bodytype? (endo, meso, excto, a combination?)

You get the idea... there's a lot at work here. My experience with glutamine/bcaa's is that it can accelerate loss of adipose tissue depending on where you are with everything asked above, and where you currently are in your contest season.

I wouldn't say that I am at a fat loss plataeu, just didn't want it to hinder my progress. . .
I pull a 650 caloric expenditure at 7 AM-takes about 33 minutes (I take Mass Aminos and Liver Tabs before and Drink Glutamine during it) then have egg whites and whole eggs for fat at 8 AM
Eat 1.5 cans tuna w/ Mustard and Broccoli at 11 AM
Eat 1.5 cans tuna w/ Mustard and Broccoli at 1:45 PM
Lift at 2 PM
Drink PWO Shake aroud 4 PM
Eat Chicken and Asparagus about 7 PM
Then I did 2 night cardio sessions last week, increased it to 3 night sessions this week expending 400 calories-takes about 21 minutes. . .Do that about 8 PM.
Then finish off the night with more chicken and asparagus at 10 PM
Macro's are about 320 g Pro, 30 G fat and Trace carbs from Asparagus and Broccoli. So I have no real carb sources. . .
I take 6 Ultra 40's and 6 Mass Aminos with every meal, Take MP with creatine and Glutamine PWO. Taking Lipo-6 for a little stimulant. Going to purchase GH Factor today. I'll be 4 weeks out this saturday. I Lift 3 on/1 off, hitting every muscle twice weekly doing a push/lower/pull split. . . I think I am in panic mode now. . .

Are those extra liver tabs(2 g's per tab) and mass aminos(1.25 g for every tab) added into your protein numbers?? and at the same time your carbs are very low, and should have more in there! Fats could be too low as well! You are how tall and weight how much??

well thats about another 117 g's of protein if its not counted and that's another 468 cals per day!

so is it 320 g's of protein or about 440??

Extra protein that can not be utilized by the body does and can turn into extra fat as well? The body can only use so much protein and then this can occur!

Craig, Hyper is in panic mode. Trust me.

I just received your E mail Hy, and if that shot was at 12 weeks out, and you've lost an additional 2" off the waistline, I would continue with what you are doing buddy. I can't even imagine what you would look like now at 4 weeks out.

What I agree with C about is the low amount of carbs right now, and in fact, I would actually advise to take in more Glutamine Select, between meals and prior to training at this juncture to offset any catabolic response you should have to the training and cardio. Is there a more recent pic you can send?

All in all, very impressive physique and your wheels look fanatstic. Couldn't see any back shots but are you nice and tight back there? Particularly the lower back?

Keep doing great!

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Originally posted by Cytrainer913:
Are those extra liver tabs(2 g's per tab) and mass aminos(1.25 g for every tab) added into your protein numbers?? and at the same time your carbs are very low, and should have more in there! Fats could be too low as well! You are how tall and weight how much??

well thats about another 117 g's of protein if its not counted and that's another 468 cals per day!

so is it 320 g's of protein or about 440??

Extra protein that can not be utilized by the body does and can turn into extra fat as well? The body can only use so much protein and then this can occur!

That protein figure is 320 whole foods, then the additional liver tabs and mass aminos, so yeah, the protein is crazy high! Just don't want to atrophy any. I am 6'2" and want to make 198.25. Last year I competed at 188, so I want to be 10 pounds heavier and leaner. I atrophied last year like none other, but didn't take a single supplement besides Protein powder PWO. This year I am on the Bev bandwagon and I can tell a significant difference as far as muscle retention. . . I'm adding CH Factor tonight. . . Anyhow- I do not feel I can get lean enough eating carbs, then a little carbs trigger more carbs. I will increase my fat intake via EFA's if you think I should give that a try, but the Carbs, I really feel like they could hurt me this close.

just wasted cals bro, and wghats making the fat loss slower trust me I would know, got stuck like that one time and took them out and things just started moving along again, you are not going to atrophy from your protein you are going to atrophy from the carbs, the greatest muscle sparing nutrient out there, so cut those as low as you arer and expect to atrophy no matter where you protein is!

and if you are ready early the best thing to do is actaully add some extra carbs back in as they will spark your metabolism and make you look harder fuller and lean as ever!

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Originally posted by Aram:
Craig, Hyper is in panic mode. Trust me.

I just received your E mail Hy, and if that shot was at 12 weeks out, and you've lost an additional 2" off the waistline, I would continue with what you are doing buddy. I can't even imagine what you would look like now at 4 weeks out.

What I agree with C about is the low amount of carbs right now, and in fact, I would actually advise to take in more Glutamine Select, between meals and prior to training at this juncture to offset any catabolic response you should have to the training and cardio. Is there a more recent pic you can send?

All in all, very impressive physique and your wheels look fanatstic. Couldn't see any back shots but are you nice and tight back there? Particularly the lower back?

Keep doing great!

Upper back is tight, low back has some problems. I neglected deads and stiff legs until this past year after I saw how I had no erector spinae in my photos, so the low back will be better, but nothing special. Both you guys are on me about the Carbs, man, I really don't think I can afford to eat any. I feel good, workouts are good, cardio is good, recovery is good-I guess so with that insane protein intake. I'm probably just converting that extra protein into carbs, that why I don't feel like poop yet! I wish I had an updated pic, but just don't right now. I'm just making sure I am doing all that I can right and will take advice and possibly apply it.
Thanks guys

Hyper,

I am a recovering carb o phobic myself. Beleive me it wasn't easy to shift my thinking on carbs, but I did and it made all the difference in this year's contest prep.

I dropped my macros from the following

t/w/f- 350p/65c/90f
Mon/thurs- 370/255/125 (carb meal day)
Sat/Sun- 450/170/113

to more like

sunday-Fri 300p/150c/65f

with a refeed day on Saturday around 300g carbs once a week.

Now, I am mostly an endomorph (like 6 to 1 endo/meso) and am relatively carb sensitive, but I had great results with this type of macro split.

Hope this was helpful.

Hyper,

My protein intake pre-contest is actually higher than yours, and I'm a lightweight, so I believe you are getting the insulin response from the protein. This is why I don't believe the extra Glutamine Select is having a negative effect with you.

It seems as if it's all going to come down to peak week for you. This is where I have to side with CY and agree that the carb manipulation will be key to dialing you in, especially what you do the final 2 days, and on the day of the show.

Good luck to you.

Man, you guys are killing me with the carb thing. Would you think this approach would be better, increase fat via EFA caps, and add one sweet potatoe?
Egg Whites/Whole Eggs
Tuna/Broccoli/EFA
Tuna/Broccoli/EFA
Muscle Provider/Glutamine/Creatine PWO
Chicken/Sweet Potatoe/Aparagus
Chicken/Asparagus
Don't really have the exact macro's right now, but I would probably add in about 40 grams of CHO from the sweet tater and increase my fat intake to about 50 g per day. Who knows, I should have never asked, now I am doubting myself--ah I love contest prepping.

4 oz of sweet pot = 28 carbs
6 oz of sweet =42 g's carbs and you could either split those up amongst the first 4 meals or all in the meal post workout!

Fats look good as well, your weight??

I don't weigh in until tomorrow, that's just my date to weigh, I guess I am too meticulous, but my goal weight is 215 lbs, should be close, but the July 4th weekend might have set me back a few!!! I'll let you know.
Thanks
ps. I had some oats tonight, time to hit cardio session #2.

you are going crazy, why would July 4th set you back don't you have a show in 4 weeks?? Will Power?? Discipline?? Persevere? Don't always stay at a weight either if you need to get tighter then get there!