I am taking all of the Bev fat loss supplements and was wondering when to stop taking them and if anyone knew about taking GH Factor before pumping up?

go with synergy and a snickers, the fat sugar and sodium will help your pump and the NO from the Muscle Synergy will help too.

Ive heard of GH Factor for pump up, but if you didnt sufficiently refill your muscle with carbs Wed-Sat morning no supplement is going to miraculously make you get a good pump.

I am doing my first show sat. and I looked at your final week diet plan that you posted Jtheo. So i went out and got me a whole bunch of rice cakes. The day of the show I will have my morning meal then eat rice cakes and almond or peanut butter all the way up to the pre-judging. Then i was going to toss down 12 synergy half an hour before pump up and sip on some dextrose sugar 15 min, before and while pumping up. So ill get the fat and sugar from the almond/pb anddextrose. What do you think?

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I am doing my first show sat. and I looked at your final week diet plan that you posted Jtheo. So i went out and got me a whole bunch of rice cakes. The day of the show I will have my morning meal then eat rice cakes and almond or peanut butter all the way up to the pre-judging. Then i was going to toss down 12 synergy half an hour before pump up and sip on some dextrose sugar 15 min, before and while pumping up. So ill get the fat and sugar from the almond/pb anddextrose. What do you think?

Salt free pb and salt free rice cakes are best, I bet you got the 15mg sodium kind, probably okay, but I used salt free.

Just REMEMBER this, the loading and real work is done from Weds-Fri, you cant load a depleted cell in one day on Saturday it wont work. It takes 48-72 hours to fully saturate a completely deflated cell. If you have been low carbing it for much of your prep I can bet you are depleted. If you dont fill up properly Wed-Fri you will be flat, nothing on Saturday will save you.

The way I do my final week I am so saturated come saturday that nothing I do will hurt me unless I chug a bunch of water, once I take a bunch of water I will spill due to all the carbs I ingest...


Good Luck

Actually I made sure I got the no salt ones...LOL. I plan on carb loading wed and thurs then fat load friday with a high carb meal as my last one befor bed. I have not been using really low carbs for my prep because I was already lean and at 4.5% BF at 4 weeks out. My carbs are reduced to 50g today and tomorrow though. I planned on doing 150-200 on wed. 250-300 thurs. then the meal before bed friday and all morning rice cakes on sat.

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I planned on doing 150-200 on wed. 250-300 thurs. then the meal before bed friday and all morning rice cakes on sat.

Some will try to say thats enough, actually I bet EVERYONE you talk to will, but I dont believe it is to be fully dry and hard. And I proved that with my final week prep for the Northern.

I loaded 16 x lbm in kilos on Weds, thats 930 grams of carbs over 18 meals, white potato and sweet potate with rice cakes every other meal.
I loaded 11 x lbm in kilos on Thurs, thats 630 over 18 meals, sweet p and rice cakes
I loaded 6 x lbm in kilos, 300 on Friday all rice cakes with fat loading 2tbs of natty pb all friday, 8 meals, then had a salty fatty meal Fri night for my ninth and final meal.

Then added about 120 grams from pancakes Sat morning. I was full and dry, more than Ive ever been.

I am not saying you should eat that much as I set my body up for that, the lowest carb amount I dieted on until the final week was 175, with training days being 225, the lowest I got the final week was 180/155. What I would do if I was you is look back at my dieting strategy and see what my highest carb intake was and what my average carb intake was. Fri Id do 3.5 to 4 x that amount spread over 10 meals, Thurs, do 3-3.5 x that amount spread over 10 meals, Fri, do 2.5-3 x that amount spread over 8 meals all with rice cakes and pb and taper water as I suggest. Then do the saturday like you have planed. Just my advice based on what Ive done in the past and what I did this time.

The trick is decrease water, 1 gal, 1/2 gallon, 1/4 gallon, then none until pump up. Take a natural diuretic Weds-Fri.

If you are only eating that low amount of carbs I hope you arent cutting water too drastically or you will flatten like a pancake.

The pics in the link below where Im still pale and outside was the morning after loading 930 grams carbs and starting to drop water (thurs morning)....I was already full and dry and only weighed around 136 in those pics.

Good Luck

The amounts you propose will not even come close to replenishing you.

Thank you very much for your help. I definitely wanted your advice because I did look at your pics and your approach and you looked AMAZING. I will definitley increase those amounts thta I listed. I have been taking in lots of sodium and water so once I restrict my water and sodium you are right that I wil look flat as a pancake, I never really thought of that when thinking about how i was going to approach this. As for the natural diuretic, what would you say to use? I was going to just take 2 99mg potassium pills with 6 meals thurs and fri. because that is what was reccommended in the beverly manual that I have. With that water that you listed is that to only take in 1 gallon wed., 1/2 gallon thurs., and 1/4 on fri. ? Or is it to reduce it by that amount? I was going to go with 2 gallons on tues wed. and 1 gallon on thurs fri. Does that seem right? Your help is very appreciated andf thanks for taking the time to respond to my posts, I appreciate it.

half of my carb intake on Weds came from White potato, check the label for potassium content, WAY more than you could ever get from those stupid pills.

Do the 3.5 to 4 approach I listed, not my amounts because as I said I set my body up for that and I wouldnt want to mess you up. But, I bet you are depleted and the numbers I set forth will not spill you. Say 4 x 150 is your Weds amount so thats 600, divide 600 by 12 Id say so you dont get more than 50 carbs per meal. Eat equal amounts over 12 meals. Protein shouldnt be any higher than 1.25 lbms and you have to account for protein in the carbs. Use white potato every other carb meal, potassium is taken care of.

Those are the water amounts, 2 galls until Weds, then 1 gall weds and decrease as I listed.

Taraxatone is good, I used to be agains this but it worked well with carb saturation.

PM me if you want more details...

Good luck