Alright today I tried doing calves before back to really concentrate. While lately I have been really trying to strecth on the bottom part. Well the ligament under my foot tires out and that's all I feel working, any suggestions A while ago I did high reps and thought I found the way to make them bigger but now I get the burn in the bottom of my foot. If anybody has any suggestions please tell!

Dave,

If you have no problems with your feet which may require medical attention, there are a few tactics you may wish to try.
Wear athletic shoes that are light and flexible.
Don't rush your reps. Try a 3 second contraction at the top and a 3-5 sec eccentric phase of the movement.
At the top of the contraction, bring your knees slightly together while simultaneously rising up onto your big toe.

Try these techniques at first with no weight, just freestyle, to zero in on a more focused mind/muscle connection.
Try not to exagerate the stretch at the bottom, instead gently stretch between sets until your flexibility improves.

Hope these tips help you out Dave

thanks for the suggestions I think I was just putting to much stress on the tips of the toes!.

No prob Dave....That's why we're here..... To assist each other.

Aram

Dave - You explain a typical issue when working calves. I have had good luck with a lot of stretching before, between and after each set. As Aram suggests the stretching under weight during the set can actually make this issue worse, but warming up and stretching your tendons and ligaments before, between and after each set seems to minimize this feeling. What works for me is to find a machine or bench with a leg or cross bar that allows me to flex my toes upward, place my heel on the ground and then gently lean into the stretch holding it for 15-30 seconds, then switch legs. You are simply using your upper body to lean into the stretch, not stretching while under any weight. That might help also.

VA MadDog