I'm posting under my wife's account, so I should probably open with some background info on me.

I'm currently 36, 6'2", 190 lbs, 10% bodyfat. I've been lifting for 20+ years, mostly recreationally to stay in relatively decent shape (former athlete). I've had a terrible diet and been fatter, a decent diet now, and tried a lot of different supplements over the years. I tried MP and UMP a couple of years ago and was hooked (finally a protein powder that I could digest without trouble). So I'm trying a few different products now and thought I would check to see if I'm on track with my supplementation or not.

So here's my current supplement intake:

3 GH + 5 Density on empty stomach first thing in am

3 7-Kheto + 2 Lean Out + 1.5 scoop MP 30 minutes prior to workout (30 minutes weights, 30 minutes cardio)

6 scoops Xtend pre/during/post workout (I'm getting the sense I should probably dump the sucralose, but we have like a year's supply of Xtend)

5 Density post lifting/pre cardio

1 scoop MP + 1 scoop UMP + 5 g creatine + 40 g dextrose in 10 oz skim milk post cardio (with 1/2 whole wheat bagel)

1.5 scoop UMP + 2TB peanut butter 30-60 minutes prior to bed

3 GH at bed

I also just started taking 3 Ultra 40s and 1 Lean Out with each meal (6 times/day).


I'm of course looking for that mystical "add lean muscle while losing fat" formula. With summer here I'd probably settle for "maintain muscle and lose some fat", and look to build with some fat in the fall/winter.

Thanks for any feedback.

Supplements are a far second place from a good diet. Go ahead and post your diet. That is THE MOST important aspect in attaining your goals.

I go around 225p/225c/70f - around 2,500 cals on lifting days. I try to back off to 1,800 - 2,000 on non-lifting days. I know I'd likely need to eat more to add on muscle, but like I said - summer isn't the time for that for me.

Breakfast is whole food (couple of eggs, 2-3 whites, 2 pieces whole wheat toast).

Post-post workout meal is lean hamburger (4 oz) and brown rice (1/2 cup).

Afternoon snack is lean turkey & ham (4-6 oz) on whole wheat bread.

Dinner is usually a 400 calorie-ish meal - usually chicken or lean red meat with a starch/carb.

I don't want to be ungrateful on any diet feedback - I understand that a sound diet is more important than supplements. But I'm really looking for comments on my supplementation usage here. I don't want to be misusing or mistiming anything I'm trying.

Thanks

I would lower the carbs and up the protein alittle and I know during my contest prep my Fat intake is between 15-20% of my calories. Also you should by some EFA's to supplement your fat. Keep your protein at 1-1.25 per lb of bodyweight and then get your fat at 15-20% and play around with your carbs lower them little by little week by week and track your results and see what works for you.

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Originally posted by Menna:
I would lower the carbs and up the protein alittle and I know during my contest prep my Fat intake is between 15-20% of my calories. Also you should by some EFA's to supplement your fat. Keep your protein at 1-1.25 per lb of bodyweight and then get your fat at 15-20% and play around with your carbs lower them little by little week by week and track your results and see what works for you.

My protein might be a little more (250+), especially with the added protein from the Ultra 40s now. I do take a couple of EFA Golds a day, and also get some EFAs with either a couple TB of ground flaxseed or via some heart conscious butter. I try to keep my diet around the 40/40/20 split.

And sorry for being a pest, but again, I'm looking for comments on the supplement usage. Let's see if we can get some feedback on whether I'm misusing/mistiming something. I'd hate to be burning through the supplements (and the money) by misuse.

Thanks

I would do 6 GH in the AM and 6 before training-empty stomach, I would also add in MASS pills with meals and training, and a super pak with the biggest meal of the day and atioxidants after training.

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1.5 scoop UMP + 2TB peanut butter 30-60 minutes prior to bed

3 GH at bed

Swap those two or:

3 GH 30 hour before bed (Should be taken on an empty stomach and allow enough time for it to be absorbed.).
1.5 UMP + 2TBS PB prior to bed

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Originally posted by Frank:

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1.5 scoop UMP + 2TB peanut butter 30-60 minutes prior to bed

3 GH at bed

Swap those two or:

3 GH 30 hour before bed (Should be taken on an empty stomach and allow enough time for it to be absorbed.).
1.5 UMP + 2TBS PB prior to bed

Did you mean take the GH 30 minutes prior to my bed/nightime snack - meaning to allow GH 30 minutes to absorb on an empty stomach before that last snack?

If it makes a difference, I eat dinner 2.5 - 3 hours prior to what you're suggesting for the night time dosing of GH. Should my stomach be empty enough to absorb at that time or should I switch to a full 6 in the morning when I know my stomach is empty?

Thanks

It's good for GHF to be taken prior to bed because it helps secrete your natural hGH while sleeping. If you want to take it prior to eating, that should be ok.